Her Holiness Sai Maa Lakshmi Devi

It has taken me nearly three weeks to come back to earth after interviewing Her Holiness Sai Maa. Directly after leaving the hotel where she was staying, I got a text from a friend: did I ask her the question of questions, “What’s the meaning of life?”…I couldn’t remember. Not five minutes before I had been in Maa’s presence, a vivid, surreal adventure, but as in a dream, the details flitted away (luckily I recorded the interview). There was something distinctly Narnian about it. In C.S. Lewis’s masterpiece, the hiding-and-seeking young Pevensies discover the doorway to another world by stepping into an old wardrobe. Magic, wonder, and the shattering of perceived reality ensue. An hour with Sai Maa showed that Her Holiness appears to have stepped through many, many “wardrobes.”

As I arrived in her room in a hotel in Golden where she was staying and giving a workshop, I noticed a beautifully arranged space, with pillows, the scent of incense, and in one corner, an elaborate altar. Among pictures of her guru Sai Baba, there were pictures of Jesus, which surprised me–a fairly ignorant first notion I found out quickly as she holds Jesus in very high esteem and is not limited to any one religion. Then Maa came in. After freezing for half a second, I gave her the greeting I was told was traditional, “Om Jai Jai Sai Maa.” Her delighted reaction instantly showed me that the “serious” box I’d mentally put her was the wrong fit. She gave me a genuine hug with a big smile. I told her I was nervous. She said, “just love me and you won’t be nervous.” As we moved to sit down I said it was interesting to see Jesus on her altar. She laughed, showing her sense of humor, “What, you think Jesus is only for white people?”

I’ll preface this material with a disclaimer: in the west we are given the idea of faith, but rarely the tools to discover it properly for ourselves. Many of the things Maa says are beyond comprehension. Such as, I am not from this planet, so I see differently. It’s not that I don’t love it. I love the planet it’s exquisite, but I am not of it.” Also, that she sleeps at most forty-five minutes a night, for the last twenty nine years…and where a great preacher may stand at the pulpit and deliver a well-researched, heartfelt sermon, citing passages from whichever holy tome he or she wishes, Sai Maa is the first person I’ve met that claims to have actually been there, directly interfacing with the divine. When asked if she has met the Hindu gods: “All of them. They are my gang, my friends, only one I’m not too friendly with is Brahman,” she says with a smile.

If you are a seeker, then Maa is the treasure at the end of the rainbow. I never did directly ask the meaning of life, but I did ask why we are here…for the sake of experience. We live our lives with our patterns, existing in our perceived three/four dimensions, but there are millions of dimensions in actuality. And as Maa says, “You are all of it, at once but you’re not aware. Imagine that there is a womb. You are in it. It’s called source, it’s called truth, it’s called God, it’s called self. For the sake of experience you know what it is to come out of It. And then what you do you move through these different dimensions, just like a russian doll, so when you are here you have left a print of yourself everywhere. You are a multi-dimensional being.”

 

— On what is happening right now– “Everything is happening already. Right now we are in a very unique phase, many many huge gateways are opening right now, huge amounts of energy from different planes, different dimensions. All this to prepare the purging. It’s the preparation of the golden age, the preparation of ‘oneness consciousness.’ Naturally people will go through pain. Naturally, because it’s a birth.”

 

— On faith — Now you have faith in doubts, big faith in fear, big faith in doubt. You don’t have faith in faith. You put all your faith in the big basket of doubt. This is directly quantifiable into physical consequences. We move away from this by first becoming aware that we have entered an era of energy. This body is not solid. It’s energy. The more you bring to your awareness, your consciousness, the greater and higher frequency, the more everything will turn into energy. Everything is energy.

 

— On Mother Earth — It’s a living being. It breathes. It has chakras. It has leylines like meridians just like your body. The planet was created by the Elohims (great beings of love that have never taken physical form). It was exquisite. What is it? It’s an energy. Energy pulsates. Energy’s alive. At that time [the beginning] it was prepared for beings to come here from different planes. The first golden age, so the energy was very high. And little by little it went down and came back…the cycle.

 

— On “aliens” — We are being observed by many, many different entities. They come as curious beings. Some are more advanced, some are not. Some are less evolved, and some are more evolved. They travel here from other places. They want to taste what’s here. The difference between beings of planet earth and other planes, there is love here. This changes everything. It originates from earth. Venus was an earth a long time ago. Sanat Kumara brought the energy of love and light constantly until it turned into a devotional planet. And its frequency rose up. It exists today as a realm of light. [I asked how we could observe this as our eyes clearly cannot see it] “If you meditate you can see everything.”

 

The beauty of India

— On India and Egypt — We should all be looking to go there at some point. It will cause a change in consciousness. India is the only country where thousands of masters have attained a state of godliness. There’s a reason why India has been poor. They could not focus on the material things. They had to focus on spirituality so that they could hold it for the world. Egypt is the other country that will cause a shift in people. It’s a big portal. They are descended from Atlantis.

 

— On Atlantis and its lesson — When Atlantis was sinking, a spaceship came to save the blueprint of this planet. It sank because it didn’t have “the heart” anymore. They were full of technology, being only in the intellect, not the mind. They were brilliant, but forgot the love. “Today, if you do not stop for a moment to feel love, we’ll be into computers and technology in a split second, and now all the healers are using all kinds of devices. That’s a little bit my concern. If we do not make it past the fifty percent at a point. There will be not enough love and we will disappear again.”

 

— On her state of being, and her work — [I asked her if she experienced the full range of emotions or was just floating at all times] “Floating no, floating yes. In the body no, in the body yes. I can cry if I see someone is in pain. My blissful state doesn’t change. I can make as if I’m angry at you but my bliss is still right here. To do the work that I do I have to have the firmness with students, clear with disciple, loving […] I am so focused, like a laser. I’ve no time to have emotions. I enter here [snaps fingers], what’s next? And I move. I’m pure love, not ‘I have love.’ I am pure love itself, so I don’t care who loves me, because I am love itself. And my point is to make sure that when I work with someone, they get to love themselves, accept themselves, and realize they’ve always been accepted.”

 

— On Jesus and enlightenment — Jesus comes from another plane, just like Maa, coming to serve the light. It’s not easy. Because nobody has faith in love. Nobody has faith in light. Nobody wishes to be enlightened. They can say, “Oh I want enlightenment but it’s bullshit.”

 

— On us, and love/fear — There is ONLY YOU. There is only one ‘self.’ Involve, and then evolve. […] Some dare to ask themselves ‘who am I?’ What happens to me when I die? What is making my heart beat? This is called awareness. This is the first step. So now, become aware there are only two energies on planet earth. One is fear. One is love. Unlike in physics where there is no such thing as cold only a lack of heat…fear has it’s own energy. That’s what makes it different. “Everything is about frequency. The whole creation, it’s only frequency, lower frequency, or higher frequency. Let’s say one to a hundred. Fear base is one. Love, pure pure divine love, hundred. In between life exists. Now you have the choice with awareness where you want to be. At one, or at hundred. It’s so simple. Really simple.”

 

Maa argues with this guy, regularly

— On why we are here, and Jesus — We are here for the sake of evolution. It is our nature, in our blueprint to create, and the divine impulse has begun pushing us to move from being into becoming. “I travel in the whole of creation, there is no God [to my question if there’s a “boss”].” The reason why Jesus said “father.” Jesus has a guru in the Himalayas, whose name is Maitreya. Jesus was a great esoteric master, not a spiritual teacher only, a great esoteric master, meaning alchemy, and he heard the voice inside, the male voice. That’s why he said ‘father.’ “I fight with him every now and then about this because it confuses people. They are afraid of the father, the male figure.”

After sitting with Maa, the world seems a different place. People have asked me if she is crazy– honestly this is a perfectly reasonable response to hearing what she says–but no, to be in her presence was to be engulfed in an energy I have never experienced, a truly holy being. Riding the elevator down from the interview I felt like I was in an altered state of mind, swimming in the divine infinite, awash in the bright afterglow of a heightened consciousness.
If you think it’s all bs, that none of what she said could possibly be real, and I’m a fool for believing it…does this really matter? Perhaps some things are true whether you believe them or not. If we are all inevitably drops in the divine sea of GOD, then like all water we will eventually find our way back to the source. We may spend millennia frozen in ice, drop from a cloud onto a mountain and traverse through the jungle, fall into a river and crash over a waterfall…but in the end, all water eventually arrives at its destination. This world is a playground designed by great beings of love, according to Maa. So…on an intergalactic, multidimensional highway there’s a sign next to this place that says, “Have Fun and Treat Each Other Right.”
Ok.

 Elliot Riis is a yogi/teacher/banker/ writer who spends his time contemplating the universe and his place in it while trying to maintain a productive role in contemporary society. He can be found regularly twisting himself into deeper and deeper asanas while trying to uncover the answer to that most sacred question…why?

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26 Responses

    • Elliot Riis

      Laura I would love to share it with you. There are so many things that didn't make it into the article, like when Jesus, St. Germain, and the archangel Michael showed up in her room one day and told her it was time to "be in the world," and she left her husband, her two kids in France and began her spiritual path. Also, the things she said to just me about Ganesha, amazing, but that was personal. And her tone, so beautiful when you actually hear her voice. I was entranced.

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  1. Aubrey Brobst

    Wow. wow. My heart feels so good from this. I will have to read this and read this and read this to get even an inkling of understanding out of it. "We may spend millennia frozen in ice, drop from a cloud onto a mountain and traverse through the jungle, fall into a river and crash over a waterfall…but in the end, all water eventually arrives at its destination. This world is a playground designed by great beings of love…" my heart aches from this, Elliot. I pictured the water being frozen, then thawing, moving, trickling through a river, the sounds it creates, falling over the cliff, creating the beauty that it does (was just staring at a river and waterfall this weekend and marveling at how water makes me feel something that I can't quite put into terms. Never have I been able to. Youth. Happiness. Playfulness. Movement. Fish. Submerged. Emersed. Free.). Filling my eyes with…oh my goodness, will she say it…god, maybe…you know how I feel about this, but "Perhaps some things are true whether you believe them or not." I'll take that, my dear friend.

    I second that motion, Laura Standley. Perhaps in NYC, Oct 31st-ish, with Halloween costumes on (wince) and wine in our cups. Yes, please.

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    • Kimi Marin

      "They could not focus on the material things. They had to focus on spirituality so that they could hold it for the world."

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    • Barbara Booras

      Beautiful writing. Almost there with you Elliot. I am glad it was the first thing I read today. Fear and love. Our only possible responses.

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  2. Aubrey

    Wow. wow. My heart feels so good from this. I will have to read this and read this and read this to get even an inkling of understanding out of it. “We may spend millennia frozen in ice, drop from a cloud onto a mountain and traverse through the jungle, fall into a river and crash over a waterfall…but in the end, all water eventually arrives at its destination. This world is a playground designed by great beings of love…” my heart aches from this, Elliot. I pictured the water being frozen, then thawing, moving, trickling through a river, the sounds it creates, falling over the cliff, creating the beauty that it does (was just staring at a river and waterfall this weekend and marveling at how water makes me feel something that I can’t quite put into terms. Never have I been able to. Youth. Happiness. Playfulness. Movement. Fish. Submerged. Emersed. Free.). Filling my eyes with…oh my goodness, will she say it…god, maybe…you know how I feel about this, but “Perhaps some things are true whether you believe them or not.” I’ll take that, my dear friend.

    I second that motion, Laura Standley. Perhaps in NYC, Oct 31st-ish, with Halloween costumes on (wince) and wine in our cups. Yes, please.

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  3. James Collie

    A world problem to many religions only one god I have the solution to starvation and I am not false remember before birth have a nice time travelling through your inner ego.

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  4. James Collie

    The XL pipeline would be better used to pump water rather than oil for irrigation purposes and all water features such as fresh water fish farming and building communities and good irrigation projects.

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    • James Collie

      If one looks at excess water in layman’s terms like a bathtub full of water and each country in higher areas where rivers form build a dam or Man made lake the second time around it would reduce the excess waters in our Oceans it could be put to good use in many ways irrigation projects fish farms in warmer areas evaporation and if capped fresh drinking water a area like the Euphrates river which runs through Syria from Turkey into Iraq then into the sea building water catchment a and dams all the way back through Iraq then through Syria waters could be used to benefit those areas in need the dead Sea could be flooded from the Mediterranean in the wet season it is after all a old desolation area due to evaporation there is much more but for now have a nice Day and think of your God

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    • James Collie

      In Greek Mythology a soldier stood with a shield and with the suns reflection set fire to a ship a enactment was done in 75 by a professor proving it correct if a similar shield with the suns reflection was pointed at captured salt water in somalia or ethiopia near to the Ocean and the wind blows inland evaporation would create drinking water or rain clouds putting water where most needed aloe vera can grow in these conditions and other plant life the flesh of this plant can be used for drinking or sun burn helping reduce starvation a form of healing and reducing water levels due to flooding and helping where most needed

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